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Thursday, January 06, 2011

Europe Islam and Demogrpahics another view. Some Islamic countries also have low birth rates.

Part 1:
Interesting article by the Solid Surfer. This guy also is conservative.


Here is the link to the article.



Europe, Islam, and Demographics

We have those that really at the end of the day have more trust in Islam and family life then their own culture and would rather hate Islam rather then deal with their own issues which is a bad way to live. As I know the hebrew root womb and mercy are the same and a nation that doesn't want women to have children (and women themselves don't want children themselves or view this as not a big priority) usually lack compassion and seem to have high level of hate in general. There are times hate is appropriate but not all the time.

The issue isn't even religion. It goes back to Issac and Ishmael which is why the Jewish among others have to have a healthy birth rate and grow internally as no matter how Arab's practice their religion because of the way Sarah treated Ismael (that Abraham in this area followed what Sarah said since she had a better knowledge of her children) will not lead them to want to treat us well as they think Ismael is the true chosen one and the first born of Abraham.

Anyway from the article. My comments in bold.

From Article: First, Western nations aren't the only ones with falling birthrates. The Muslim world is seriously declining as well. Iran, Turkey, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Albania, Lebanon, and Malaysia are all below the 2.1 replacement line, while Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, and the Muslim parts of India are close behind and falling rapidly. A few Muslim nations do indeed have high fertility, but the common denominator is not Islam itself, as Steyn implies, but a lack of modernization. Many non-Muslim countries that also haven't fully modernized have high rates as well, such as Laos, Uganda, and Paraguay.

My comments: Well how do you define modernity. So Iran is a modern country?? I don't think more or less modern then Saudi Arabia and they didn't make this list. It may be women are focused on different things due to other influences that really have nothing to do with modernity. If modernity is apposed to woman having healthy birth rates that is quite disturbing in itself. What do you make of this.



You see, Islam's recent growth has come almost fully from natural increase (which is now falling), and not from conversions. On the other hand, Christianity is growing just as fast by gaining far more converts. These aren't coming from the developed world, which is already predominantly Christian, but from places like China, India, and especially Africa, where over 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity each year.

My comments: Interesting. Which sadly when people have low birth rates they have to bring people in from the outside which of course can mean war. Just in general. Not just religion. Nations that have low birth rates have to bring outsiders in and this applies to religion as well to keep their numbers strong which may not be a good thing as you don't want those to respect their parents background.


From article: Muslims will not overwhelm the world demographically; if anything, the world will grow less Muslim in the forseeable future.

From article: Europe, on the other hand, is admittedly a trickier case. Native fertility is indeed low, while Muslim growth rates and levels of extremism have remained high. Over the next 50 years, Europe projects to lose about 100 million people, while European Muslims will double their numbers to about 20% of the total European population. If Turkey joins the EU, Muslim numbers will rise even further.

My comments: Regardless of Islam though because of very low birth rates of 1.4 Europe projects to lose 100 million people!!! and no question their culture is going to be the minority to someone. No nation has survived a birth rate under 1.9 and that culture may realize that you can't continue the policies of Europe that lead to this low birth rate if we want to survive.

Part 2 coming up soon as I decided to break this down in two parts.

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