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Friday, April 24, 2009

Hi Everyone.

I just wanted to say hello to everyone. I haven't had much time to blog recently.

Since I am an accountant tax season was really busy and it was also passover although it really was not a great passover for me.

I should have more time to comment to posts here.

Anyway, I am a first born male which of course G-d killed all the first born Egyptian men. This I think was a punishment because Pharoah wanted to kill all boys that were born while letting the girls live.

It is sad that we haven't learned from our history as this story clearly shows that discrimination against Jewish men is a sign of bigotry towards Jews but many in our community themselves discriminate against Jewish men with various excuses. Just thought I would throw that out. I guess Pharoh was a feminist.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Analytical Adam:

I’ve read a few of your posts and have found them to be interesting and some of the points raised valuable.

However, I have noticed a repeated theme within them that Judaism somehow favours women over men and that men are getting a raw deal. I do not understand this sentiment and it does seem rather far-fetched.

Firstly, G-d loves his creations and loves both men and women equally. In a practical sense though men have more mitzvos than women- which is a tremendous gift. Secondly, Men have the opportunity to learn Torah on a much more in-depth level than women, since in Yeshiva/Kollel the learning is clearly on a higher level than in Seminary. Also, it is acceptable and possible for men to learn in a formal framework for much longer periods of time and at any age. In modern times women often support their husbands in learning (which is very meritorious). Another practical issue is that of dating: there are more single women than men and men are much more sought after than women. This is sad but it is the reality and gives men an apparent advantage in a practical sense when dating. In the situation of marriage (and laws of divorce) men also are given the lead. They have the final say on halachic issues and also on whether or not they wish to grant a divorce (lo aleinu). There are of course spiritual reasons for all these.

What mystifies me is why any man would feel disadvantaged under the present framework. If anything women would have more cause to complain than men –although this too is misguided and with proper analysis and understanding women would not feel this way. (For any women (or men) who feel that there is inequality I recommend an excellent book: The Moon’s lost Light by Devorah Heshelis.)

As an intellectual female who is single I sometimes feel that the resources are not available in the frum Jewish world for me to be able to grow as a person. –although I do understand that Judaism itself does not discriminate against women, Analytical Adam: please explain to me why and in what way (given what I’ve said above) you feel that men are disadvantaged. I really want to understand your point of view.

Analytical Adam said...

Part 1:Thank you for commenting. I hope you go back here and read my response.

Let us clear something up. Judaism I agree does not favor either gender. G-d creates both men and women in his image It says it in last weeks Parsha. My point is Rabbi's like to pander to women. This is problem in Christianity as well. Of course at the end of the day pandering to women makes them feel like they are weak and that G-d trusts them less even though they trying use this inconsistent logic that on one hand since they are more spiritual they have less obligations but the problem is in general the more spiritual you are the more G-d would trust you and would give you more responsibility. If you love someone more you give them more responsibility not less. A cohen has more obligations not less. There is nothing biblical about it Rabbi's are just pandering to women Rabbi's have to prove their views from the written torah. The oral torah without the written torah is not Judaism any more then the written torah without the oral torah as certain items need a bigger explanation.

Analytical Adam said...

Part 2:
You are violating the first story in the torah. A man's first obligation is to provide which is Adam's case was to work the land and the woman's primary responsibility is to bear children. (The Rabbi's have reversed it more on that later) It was not easy and it was a punishment for him listening to Eve when Eve told him to do something against what G-d and he should have said "I am sorry Eve but G-d told us not to eat from the apple.

From reading your post you really think that work is simple and easy and you can snap your fingers and get a job. I know people in Kolel's have rich parents. The cases where some cases women are working they are working jobs that are paid for by taxpayers or through nepotism but many women can't themselves support a family anyway and to do so they want bigger gov't and give male lawyers tremendous powers which creates a few men having a lot of power. The gov't isn't suppose to take taxes from people (more men by the way) to give a woman a job she feels she is entitled to.

The job I have which is in the private sector is not easy and I have a lot of stress and it really sounds like you are brainwashed to think most men have jobs that are easy and they could just snap their fingers and get a job. That is not true nor is it true of women either.

I think you're problem is you view Rabbi's as G-d and they can change the torah at their whim. You view some discussion in the talmud as more important then the first story in the Tanach which if that is the case you don't even understand what the Talmud is. If you studied Tanach you would understand that Rabbi's can distort the torah as well and the prophets in the later prophets discussed false religious leaders that give the Jewish people false hope when things sadly were not good and focused on ritual behavior. There is nothing new under the sun.

So, again, I agree with you. The G-d of Israel views both genders in the image of G-d and both genders should try to understand G-d. But Rabbi's liked to pander to women because they don't like men that ask serious questions. I can tell you in some of these Yeshiva's that you seem to sit there in envy (which envy is a serious sin) of they may discuss something irrelevent Gemara in detail but if you ask a serious question about something of greater significance they don't what you to do that.

That is my response to you. I do love G-d and feel G-d created each gender with certain area's they have more dominance in although some what the gov't and lawyers to force the issue which is giving a few men much power. Sadly though Rabbi's do pander to certain groups whether it be wealthy men or young nubile women of childbearing age for their own power grab and that is what I am criticizing here. They don't care much for the middle class man who work in the private sector and their experiences in the trenches do lead them to question things.

It seems your whole live if based on envy of men while you in certain area's have more control then a man does regardless of what the Rabbi's say. If you want to turn the Rabbi's into G-d that is avoda zaza. You are violating the first obligations in the torah regarding Adam and Eve which sadly our Rabbi's have switched. They make the women work while they say it is the man's obligation to have children when this story says the exact opposite and clearly on each side that gender has less control over.

You should take Tanach more seriously then some book.

Analytical Adam said...

Part 3:

I also hope you don't live in a community that has a shortage of men and yet despite that you still feel that you are a victim. This is what Envy does that you don't even open up your eyes to the reality and just want to believe men have it easy because of envy. I have had a very hard life and it is easy to think the grass is greener on the other side. Rabbi's have treated me like dirt time and time again and that is my criticism. I know deep down these Rabbi's hate G-d to do this but I have to point out that they are turning the religion into a man hating cult that the only good man is the Rabbi even THOUGH THE TORAH GIVES THEM NO RIGHT TO DO THIS.