Saturday, March 21, 2009

The Girl Scouts and their embrace of Radical Feminism and the harm it is doing to Orthodox women.

On Frumster Forum some very disturbing divorced women are appearing on the forum and I brought up the girl scouts and lord and behold it was 2 of the disturbed divorced women who defended them. Not only this but they are now teaching a younger generation of young Jewish women. Terrfic. Just what we need. They make good cookies but sadly are really now (and have been since the 1960's) a very radical organization (although they once were teaching girls proper values) that are teaching girls ideas that are anti-social and anti-god in my opinion and is destroying a Jewish Girl’s Holy G-dly Neshamah.

Here are a few article on how far to the left the girl scouts have gone yet many Orthodox communities are sending their girl's there and this may explain why some girls have such charchter problems as some of them are and continue to be very involved in the girl scouts.
The Girl Scouts New Radicalism

Girl Scout National Enclave to Feature Pro Abortion Pro Lesbian Speakers

The Cookie Crumbles the girl scouts go PC

The sad reality is that the girl scouts have been taking over by radical feminist ideology and are not teaching girls proper values. I first found about this from a book about the boy scouts but it also was discussed on the Laura Ingraham show and how many Christian mothers are pulling their daughters from this organization and they started their own group called American Heritage Girls which they feel is similar to the original girl scouts and nondenominational.

Let us go through all the series problem that girls as young as 6 are being taught

Problem #1 They are teaching young girls that women are underrepresented in science and math. Here is the link and see the second paragraph.
Girl Scout Advocacy. The issue is so what. Women are overall are doing better in school and they are not being ignored as they deserve equal time they are just less interested in math but are doing better in reading and writing so there is nothing to complain about. To teach them to be jealous or LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT MEN DO BETTER THEN THEM that they are VICTIMS IS JUST TERRIBLE AND IS VERY MUCH AGAINST THE TORAH THAT ENVY OF SOMEBODY ELSE IS WRONG AND ONE OF THE 10 commandments. They also teach WOMEN HAD TO SUE to get equality and to have the government be the women's protector. None of this is good for society and this is teaching girls to hate men at very young ages I might add. Could you imagine teaching boys to feel jealous because girls are better verbally or they are more color oriented and we should punish women for this so there will be EQUALITY?

Problem #2: They teach women to feel male leadership is bad and evil and we need NEW KIND OF LEADERSHIP. This is in part of the link above of the kind of program they have. Change it UP! What girls say about Redefining Leadership. The data indicate that girls find the COMMAND AND CONTROL STYLE OF LEADERSHIP UNAPPEALING. First of all good male leadership combines different skills and second of all most women in leadership are no different. To feel LEADERSHIP NEEDS TO BE CHANGED is very radical and I hope some Rabbi's here take note because many of them feel Rabbi's also are that EVIL MALE LEADERSHIP and may just be using you as a temporary alliance. To teach women that leadership (which of course they mean outside the family type leadership which is mostly bad) is innately control is propaganda against men. They are good leaders and bad leaders. In the women's area THE HOME women aren't always about being nice to everyone either. Both Sarah and Rebecca had to exclude Ishmael, Esav, and Hagar from their family while it was the men who wanted a little bit for everyone. Which gets us to

Problem #3: The girl scout leadership rather then admit their agenda claim THIS IS WHAT THE GIRLS WANT. Isn't a good group where adults while talking to the girls help them be more realistic and pragmatic rather then say OK WHATEVER YOU WANT I WILL GIVE YOU. Yet the girl scout leadership hides behind these young girls. It likely isn't even true as I'm sure many girls don't care for new types of leadership but this is what the leadership wants but rather then admit it they hide behind these young girls. Many girls learn from this to do the same and blame men for things that are within their control and blame their children as well which I see on the Frumster Forum. A women there who is divorced and raising the children without the father who is a proud member of the girl scouts and TEACHING OTHER YOUNG ORTHODOX WOMEN LIKELY HER HORRIBLE VALUES AND SAID THAT IT IS AN ENTITLEMENT FOR CHILDREN TO BE IN A LOVING HOME. She is completely self absorbed and even her children she uses for her own agenda as it is just horrible for a mother to say this about her own children that being in a loving home is an entitlement and her children should respect her (although she doesn't have this absolute respect for the father which is amazing her hypocrisy) but they have no rights or needs. We say in Shema we should LOVE G-D with ALL OUR HEART AND MIND. IF a woman can't even love her children and her ex she can't have a relationship with G-d yet she thinks she is religious and even wrote to me that she IS ELEVATED WHEN SHE TOLD ME SHE DIVORCED HER HUSBAND BECUASE SHE AND HER HUSBAND WERE LESS RELIGIOUS AT ONE POINT. This is really sick and THIS IS NOT ELEVATION.

Problem #4: Teaching them to use other as pawns for their agenda They do a study with 2,500 women only 1,500 men and mother but no fathers. That write off the bat sounds like they are only getting men that fit their agenda to have 2500 women and only 1500 men. I see this kind of behavior of women using men as pawns for their agenda and from no other purpose

Problem #5: Teach them self esteem is the most important which by the way the boy scouts don't teach and this was part of the hippy movement of the 1960's in my opinion. Real respect has to be based on your behavior towards other and your assessment has to be based on some outside source. I know I am good in math not because I tell myself but because others have told me this. People tell me I have interesting things to talk about so I do use this but it isn't based on me. It is based on feedback on others and if your identity is only based on telling yourself you are good a social person doesn't respects somebody who jumps artificially pumps themselves up and those type of people I see get upset very easily because others peoples reactions don't match what they tell themselves

Problem #6 The girl scouts used to teach girls their obligation to men and they longer do. They took loyalty out of their oath.

Problem #7 Lastly they have supported every radical antireligious group in the last 20-30 years. They have supported planned parenthood that has a very radical agenda on abortion and has a racist history as the founder supported eugenics and was a vicious racist as some feminist were because blacks voted before they did. They have supported Lesbianism. They now allow women not to believe in G-d which the boy scouts you have to believe in G-d. I have heard girls who wanted to support Israel have had problems as well. For all these reasons Christian Parents have pulled their girls out of the scouts and as I said started American Heritage Girls. Throughout my dating I have seen women who are supported horrible causes and I wonder how did this happen to them.

I suspect it may be the girl scouts and may be other organizations as well. It is very sad that our community doesn't protect a girl's holy neshama that they should not be indoctrinated at young ages with vile idea's and learn to be a healthy member of society that takes responsibility for her role as a woman and her obligations to family and the community and while wanting to be treated fairly allows other to contribute in area's they are better then she is.

This seeing on Frumster that it is divorced women who seem to have no shame in raising their children without the father and don't see like victims to me defending the girl scouts really is terribly troubling and again they are now teaching a younger generation of Jewish girl in the observant world. This really is a terrible thing that is gong on and I hope going forward the community is more alert on what girls are being taught in some of these organization and that radical feminists have taken over some once good organizations. Let us not forget the snake first focused on the women I think because the snake thought it would be easier and the man would follow suit more then the other way around.


Anonymous said...

Problem #6 The girl scouts used to teach girls their obligation to men and they longer do. They took loyalty out of their oath.

What obligations do women have to men that they should be learning at Girls Scouts when they are approximately 7-11 years of age?

Also, my Mother was divorced for very good reasons, and raised me wonderfully as a single mother. I am not aware that she should have been ashamed by this? I would appreciate it if you would elaborate on that statement.

Analytical Adam said...

Well a family consists of both a mother and father.If your mother no shame of raising a child without a father (when there are plenty of good moral men out there) that is part of the problem. For women to see nothing wrong with raising a child is father is deeply troubling. Half of who the child is from the father. To hate your own father is very bad. I bet you haven never heard his side of the story.

Hmmm, I know it would be very radical to teach girls that being a wife to a man one day is not something that should be taught. The girl scouts in the past focused on their duty to others, today it focuses on themselves which at the end of the day can't make them happy.This was from the 1916 handbook,

"The desire to be admired... is a tendency inborn in the great majority of women. It stands in the way of their greatest strength and usefulness, because it takes away from their real independence and kepps them thinking about themselves instead of about others. It is a form of bondage which makes them vain and self-conscious and renders impossible the truest and happiest companionship between man and woman friends.

Today the girl scouts are all about themselves. The boy scouts aren't.

Anonymous said...

Not even close. I have a great relationship with my father, and I understand why my parents divorced. It's ridiculous to think that either of my parents should have been ashamed of this. Families come in all sizes, and different combinations. You are saying my Mother just should have ran out and married any old guy so I would have a "father" in my house? How stupid is that? I have a father, and he was very present in my life. No one could have or should have taken his place. My Mother had much better sense than to just date and marry someone she didn't love out of shame. Unreal. As a result, I was much more careful about entering into marriage, and did so only after dating my present husband for several years. We have been together nearly 20 years now, and so I wasn't "damaged" in any way. If my Mom picked up some "moral" man and married him I may have been damaged.
And really, you should know in this day and age families can consist of 2 mothers, 2 fathers, etc. I am sure that repulses you, but many of these families are much more well adjusted than "traditional" families. Children are way better off in a loving family of any size or gender, rather than a "typical" family in which the parents despise each other, and take out their anger on their children.

Anonymous said...

And I NEVER said I hated my Father. He was always there for me even though my parents were divorced. I'll be celebrating his birthday with him tomorrow. He was also by my side last week when my Aunt (my Mother's sister) passed away. My Mother's side of the family still loves and respects him and he feels the same about them. Way to jump to unreasonable conclusions.

Jenny said...

While I patiently wait for an apology for you jumping to the ridiculous, unreasonable, offensive and wildly inaccurate conclusion that I hated my Father from this post, (my Dad and I had a hearty laugh about that, by the way)- I realized that my responses didn't mention the Girl Scouts. You say that it would be radical to teach girls to be a wife (sarcastically). It WOULD be radical. That is not what the Girl Scouts is about, nor should it be-the girls are much too young for one thing. I don't think that elementary school girls need to focus on wife skills. How absurd. They need to have fun and be kids. Because they ARE children. There is plenty of time to learn to be a wife (after college, or when you get engaged seems like good timing for that). Girl Scouts do teach many useful skills that are important to girls' development. But not many 8year old girls are thinking that they need to find a husband. Duh. 8 year olds should be having fun, and focusing on their education so that they can be independent women one day who can be anything they want to be in life. Not every little girl should have a goal to grow up to be a wife and mother. In fact, I don't believe in marriage and children until one's education is complete, for a male or a female. And just to remind you, I am a thoroughly educated woman with an advanced degree and a loving husband who I have been in love with for almost 20 years. So in my opinion, I am a great success!
I'll be waiting for that apology, like I mentioned. My Dad (who is 2nd only to my husband) is waiting for it too. Thanks!

Analytical Adam said...

Uh, Sorry. The guy you bring from the street is not your father.

To pretend he is shows you do have a double standard when it comes to men.

The fact of life is a child is born through a man and a woman and you wouldn't be here without your mother and father. You could pretend somebody else if your mother or father but that doesn't it make it so. If parents have issues with each other getting rid of one of the parents is not going to make it better for the children because the children still belong to both parents.

Analytical Adam said...

I'm very happy to hear that. Having said that though don't you see a double standard. You say your mother's side still respects him. Why wouldn't they respect him?

It seems you feel as a woman respect is a given but for a man it has to be earned. That isn't equality. Is it??

Jenny said...

You are just jealous because I have loving family and you don't. I never said anything about hating any of them, or replacing them. You say yourself someone off the street wouldn't replace my Dad, and they wouldn't, yet you suggest my Mother needed to remarry lest be shamed. Wow. I loved both my parents immensely, divorced or not. To suggest people always need to stay together is WRONG. I suppose that if a woman was beaten by her husband she should just sit back and not complain or leave him. (Definitely NOT the case in my family, just showing an example). I just love the way you think you have it all figured out, when obviously you DON'T! And everyone of both genders needs to earn respect, which you will never receive with your extreme attitudes!

Analytical Adam said...

I am glad at least to know what your name is Jenny.

Having said that you have said your wife's family still respects your father which suggests your father had to "earn" respect. Has his "respect" based on a "degree". Likely not not that it should be.

Sadly you worship college which was created by men and most professor's are not as smart as people who actually work in the private sector.

Having a degree doesn't make a person moral or deserving respect. IN fact for someone with a degree to tell me two women raising a child is a family is just silly. One of the women this child isn't her's so why we should want to raise another woman's child.

Again, your priority on "college" is just silly. The real world is much different then "college" and everyone today has a "college" degree. Are we smarter overall then 100 years ago. I don't think so. Yes, we have more technology today (which was mostly created by men) but I don't think we are any smarter.

Many women would disagree with you and don't think the girl scouts are teaching good values. And by the way the boy scouts are teaching the boys to think above themselves which the girl scouts today aren't really teaching.

Real intelligence comes from being able to have idea's and discuss them. A good idea is an idea that is still good after a discussion. An idea that is forced down someone's throat or is said it is a great idea because the person has PHD and therefore he or she knows all is not a good idea. If it is such a good idea then it should be able to withstand discussion.

I have a degree as well. However, I have much knowledge that has nothing to do with my degree and anyway someone who is really intelligent doesn't have to wave degrees around.

Jenny said...

I don't "worship" college. I barely brought that up, but I just feel that women do need to be educated. Say a woman has no education, no husband, and several children. Then how is she supposed to support herself and children? Government assistance? Not a great choice. Women should be empowered to choose whether or not they want to go to college. You went to collge, I went to college, what's wrong with that? Most people do.
And many same sex couples raise children when one parent is biological, or sometimes, maybe not. What you are suggesting is that people don't want to raise children that aren't theirs biologically? Tell that to my mother and father in law who love their adopted son very much, and raised him as their own, as they should. I have many adopted friends, should their parents not love them? That's ridiculous to think. They CHOSE those children to raise, and that takes a lot of love. Or maybe what you meant is that same sex couples scare you, but that's reality. People are free to live anyway they please even if you don't think it's ok.

Analytical Adam said...

In some ways you feel a person can live anyway they want and in other ways you feel certain idea's are not appropriate. Which way is it.

Analytical Adam said...

I am just going to make one more comment since you mentioned well if a guy had a degree would I look at it differently then if a woman did. The answer is, not really. I myself some of views have changed since I have graduated and I know people of both gender's who have degree's but aren't very smart overall.